{"id":171,"date":"2008-08-15T19:05:40","date_gmt":"2008-08-16T00:05:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bigroom.org\/wordpress\/?p=171"},"modified":"2008-08-19T15:36:56","modified_gmt":"2008-08-19T20:36:56","slug":"foodtvs-new-food-detectives-show","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.bigroom.org\/wordpress\/?p=171","title":{"rendered":"FoodTV&#8217;s new &#8220;Food Detectives&#8221; show&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thisisjuststupid.com\/why-stupid-website\/\" target=\"_newWindow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right;\" title=\"Link goes to thisisjuststupid.com, where you can find an explanation of this picture.  Summary: Somebody went to the trouble of picking up after their dog, but then dumped the bag of dog-feces on the hiking trail anyway...\" src=\"http:\/\/thisisjuststupid.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/image\/bagwithbanner1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"434\" height=\"261\" \/><\/a><span class=\"moreinfo\" title=\"Hopefully Popeye the Sailor won't sue me for using his phrase...\" onclick=\"alert(this.title);\">That&#8217;s all I can stands, I can&#8217;t stands no more<\/span>!  I had intended to try to come up with another post for this month&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/ontheshouldersofgiants.wordpress.com\/\">&#8220;The Giant&#8217;s Shoulders&#8221;<\/a> anthology, but I&#8217;ve just encountered such an appalling concentration of disappointing un-science that I cannot restrain myself any further.  Guess I&#8217;ll have to settle for one post in the anthology this month.<\/p>\n<p>FoodTV&#8217;s new &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.foodnetwork.com\/food\/show_ta\">Food Detectives<\/a>&#8221; show sounded so promising.  I thought to myself &#8220;<a title=\"Of course, Alton Brown has already DONE this once...\" href=\"http:\/\/www.foodnetwork.com\/food\/show_ea\/episode\/0,1976,FOOD_9956_36653,00.html\" target=\"_newWindow\">&#8216;MythBusters&#8217; meets &#8216;Good Eats&#8217;<\/a>!?!?  That would be pure, refined, pharmaceutical-grade WIN!&#8221;  Then I saw their premier episode.  The &#8220;experiments&#8221; appeared blatantly and badly staged, and in some cases shockingly badly designed.  For example, their &#8220;experiment&#8221; with refrigerator deodorants involved showing a guy sticking his face into a &#8216;fridge allegedly full of smelly stuff and filming him making faces while they timed how long he pretended to be willing to keep his face in there.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p class=\"infobox\">Dear &#8220;Food Detectives&#8221; people: a staged and scripted &#8220;experiment&#8221; on a science-themed show is <strong>just stupid<\/strong>. If you don&#8217;t want to run a real and potentially awkward experiment then don&#8217;t.? It seems pretty obvious from the show that your writers already expect a certain outcome and script the presentation to simulate it.? Research is an important part of science, so it&#8217;s okay to just present us with some peer-reviewed science and your conclusions from them without staging a pretend-experiment. Major bonus points if you actually cite the real peer-reviewed papers on the show so we can look them up ourselves for more detail.? Thank you.<\/p>\n<p>However, it was what I assume to be the second episode that really&#8230;well, how shall I describe my reaction?  Those of you secure enough to admit a liking for classic animated cartoons may be familiar with the term &#8220;<a title=\"Like a 'double-take' except with more spitting\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Spit-take\">spit take<\/a>&#8220;. Since <a title=\"Regarding the differential staining of bacteria in tissue-samples and dried preparations\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bigroom.org\/wordpress\/?p=169\">I just wrote about the Gram stain again<\/a> and today&#8217;s overdose of vitamin <span class=\"moreinfo\" title=\"What The [Heck].  ('But Heck doesn't start with an F!'  No, no it doesn't.)\" onclick=\"alert(this.title);\">WTF<\/span> concerns this technique, I feel I must speak up.<\/p>\n<p>They were talking about how the dry-aging of beef is not the same as leaving a steak out on the counter to rot and how the bacterial colonization of the rotting meat is different.  Fair enough so far, if a bit obvious.  Then the bad stuff starts. The presenters suggest that a Gram stain can tell you something about whether or not bacteria growing on a piece of meat can make you sick, which is wrong enough by itself.  But then, after an (excusably) grossly-oversimplified description of the Gram stain and Gram-negative vs. Gram-positive bacteria, the host of the shows pops out with this:<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"font-family: Comic Sans MS\"><p>&#8220;And most Gram-negative bacteria are <span class=\"moreinfo\" title=\"I didn't write it down - it may have been 'hazardous' or 'dangerous' or something, rather than 'harmful'.  The meaning was clear enough in any case.\" onclick=\"alert(this.title);\">harmful<\/span>&#8220;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Okay, I didn&#8217;t literally spew a beverage at that point, but I did involuntary exclaim &#8220;&#8230;WHAT?!?!?&#8221; aloud.  Were they <em>really<\/em> going to imply that if you smear your meat on a slide and find out it&#8217;s mostly Gram-positive bacteria that means it&#8217;s okay, but if it&#8217;s mostly Gram-negative it&#8217;s not?  That&#8217;s really their &#8220;experiment&#8221;?<\/p>\n<p>Yes.  Yes it was.  Now, as the sole member of the currently fictional organization PADL (<strong>P<\/strong>rokaryote <strong>A<\/strong>nti-<strong>D<\/strong>efamation <strong>L<\/strong>eague), I fear I must speak up against this blatant <span class=\"moreinfo\" title=\"Like racism, but with phyla instead of races\">phylism<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/\">National Center for Biotechnology Information<\/a> at the National Institutes of Health <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/Taxonomy\/Browser\/wwwtax.cgi?id=2\">lists <strong>22<\/strong> different phylum-level groupings for bacteria<\/a> (not counting the &#8220;unclassified&#8221; category).  Of those, <strong>all<\/strong> but two (the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/Taxonomy\/Browser\/wwwtax.cgi?id=1239\">Firmicutes<\/a> and in some contexts the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/Taxonomy\/Browser\/wwwtax.cgi?id=201174\">Actinobacteria<\/a>) are considered &#8220;Gram negative&#8221;.  I&#8217;m pretty sure the great majority of species in the 20 &#8220;Gram negative&#8221; phyla are quite irrelevant to human health or sickness.  What&#8217;s more, the &#8220;Gram negative&#8221; bacteria that they probably had in mind in the show&#8217;s script are not only limited to one phylum (the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/Taxonomy\/Browser\/wwwtax.cgi?id=1224\">Proteobacteria<\/a>), but within a single class within the phylum (the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/Taxonomy\/Browser\/wwwtax.cgi?id=1236\">?-proteobacteria<\/a>), and the only bacteria their &#8220;Molecular Biologist who is an expert on bacteria&#8221; (who I feel sorry for, since he had to recite the poorly-written script) actually mentioned are limited to the &#8220;<span class=\"moreinfo\" title=\"As I like to call them...\" onclick=\"alert(this.title);\">butt-bacter<\/span>&#8221; family (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/Taxonomy\/Browser\/wwwtax.cgi?id=543\">Enterobacteriaceae<\/a>) within that class. I&#8217;m pretty sure this doesn&#8217;t count as &#8220;most Gram-negative bacteria&#8221;.  On the other hand, there are a number of &#8220;Gram positive&#8221; bacteria that can make you sick through your food.  <em>Clostridium botulinum<\/em> (&#8220;Botulism&#8221;), for example.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, they take the rotten countertop steak and a slice of normal dry-aged steak, allegedly make Gram-stained bacterial smears from each (at this point I&#8217;m not convinced that wasn&#8217;t just staged, either &#8211; what they showed could easily have been two different views from the same &#8220;canned&#8221; demonstration slide &#8211; I could be wrong, but I don&#8217;t seem to remember there being microscopic food-bits in the view as I would have imagined there&#8217;d be if it was a real swab from a real steak&#8230;) and sure enough, the one that they claim to be from the rotten countertop beef has a visibly larger proportion of &#8220;Gram negative&#8221; bacteria on it than the mostly &#8220;Gram positive&#8221; view which was alleged to be from the dry-aged beef. With this, the script has the show&#8217;s host acting confident enough to declare the following (or something very close to this &#8211; again I didn&#8217;t write it down) of their &#8220;experiment&#8221; :<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"font-family: Comic Sans MS\"><p>&#8220;We&#8217;ve scientifically proven that dry-aged beef is safe to eat.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/janusmuseum.org\/panabasis\/june06.htm#24june4\"><img decoding=\"async\" title=\"Spit-take (again)\" src=\"http:\/\/www.janusmuseum.org\/panabasis\/spit2.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Admittedly, I tend to pay a lot more attention to <em>intentional<\/em> food microbiology than to medical microbiology (and food-microbiology <em>prevention<\/em>), but the entire segment seemed to be homeopathic science education &#8211; that is, out of fear that if there was too much science in their food &#8220;science&#8221; show it would scare people away, they diluted the science out to the point that there was not actually any left.<\/p>\n<p>Normally, I wouldn&#8217;t care.  It <em>is<\/em> just a TV show, after all.  The problem is that not only does <em>bad<\/em> presentation of science in the media contribute to scientific ignorance (and irritate me personally in the process), but the degree of disappointment I felt here was noteworthy.  The show sounded so promising.  I feel as though Ed McMahon showed up at my door with an oversized novelty check for $500,000,000, but after the camera crews left and the excitement died down a bit, I looked at the fine print and discovered that the prize was in <a href=\"http:\/\/ap.google.com\/article\/ALeqM5g2RPSaqbbqphRrvYYIaUsAV27LZwD91VM5O00\"><em>Zimbabwe<\/em> dollars<\/a>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>The verdict:  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.foodnetwork.com\/food\/alton_brown\/article\/0,1974,FOOD_9782_1670865,00.html\">Alton Brown<\/a> needs to stroll over to the &#8220;Food Detectives&#8221; studio and give all of their butts a good kicking &#8211; most especially whoever is writing the episodes.  There&#8217;s a reason Alton Brown is my second[1] most favorite Celebrity Chef. Purely by happy coincidence, you can see what I mean tonight (assuming you&#8217;re reading this on August 15th, 2008) as the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.foodnetwork.com\/food\/show_ea\/episode\/0,1976,FOOD_9956_36653,00.html\">&#8220;Myth Smashers&#8221; episode of &#8220;Good Eats&#8221;<\/a> is on FoodTV (twice &#8211; if you&#8217;re in mainland North American, it&#8217;s in the evening and then repeated in the middle of the night).? It&#8217;s an example of what &#8220;Food Detectives&#8221; should have been and just maybe &#8211; if we&#8217;re very lucky &#8211; might be someday.<\/p>\n<p>Just to close on a positive note, their segment in the first episode on the &#8220;five-second rule&#8221; was actually not too bad, though even there I&#8217;d have liked them to investigate their results in a bit more detail.? The brief segment on the caloric content of celery (with no staged experiment!) was okay too, if a bit obvious.  I suspect part of their underlying problem is they&#8217;re trying to cram too many different topics into each show and having to squeeze out most of the science to make it all fit.<\/p>\n<p>[1] My <strong>most<\/strong> favorite celebrity chef is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.8legged.com\/entryJS.html\">Tako the Octopus<\/a>.  I heard somewhere that the guys responsible for Tako are now working as writers on Good Eats, which might explain why there haven&#8217;t been any new episodes of &#8220;Deep-Fried Live&#8221; in several years (insert sound of piteous sobbing here).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>That&#8217;s all I can stands, I can&#8217;t stands no more! I had intended to try to come up with another post for this month&#8217;s &#8220;The Giant&#8217;s Shoulders&#8221; anthology, but I&#8217;ve just encountered such an appalling concentration of disappointing un-science that I cannot restrain myself any further. Guess I&#8217;ll have to settle for one post in &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bigroom.org\/wordpress\/?p=171\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">FoodTV&#8217;s new &#8220;Food Detectives&#8221; show&#8230;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[59,9,14,15,6,7,208,17,31],"tags":[581,233,567,238,234,237,235,232,236],"class_list":["post-171","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-do-not-want","category-food-science","category-grossly-oversimplified-science","category-methods","category-microbiology","category-science-philosophy","category-shenanigans","category-teaching-science","category-thinking-is-work","tag-do-not-want","tag-food-detectives","tag-food-science","tag-good-eats","tag-popular-science","tag-reviews","tag-science-in-the-media","tag-television","tag-television-shows"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.bigroom.org\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/171","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.bigroom.org\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.bigroom.org\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.bigroom.org\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.bigroom.org\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=171"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"http:\/\/www.bigroom.org\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/171\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":173,"href":"http:\/\/www.bigroom.org\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/171\/revisions\/173"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.bigroom.org\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=171"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.bigroom.org\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=171"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.bigroom.org\/wordpress\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=171"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}